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taliban. now we have the senators reaction. >> crash landing. a u.s. marine pilot crashes. the pilot is ejected and residents are angry demanding answers. breaking overnight a shoot-out and massive manhunt in canada. armed and dangerous and killing three police officers in a brunswick quiet neighborhood. a country that has so few terrorists. >> your "new day" starts right now. good morning, welcome to "newday." june 5th, thursday, 6:00 in eastern. top obama administration officials holding a briefing for angry senators trying to convince them the deal had to be done. how? they showed them a proof of life video in an attempted justify
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the release of five very dangerous taliban detainees. we have complete coverage starting with joe johns live from washington. joe? >> that's right, chris. the high ranking administration officials who spoke at the briefing played a so-called proof of life video of sergeant bergdahl in captivity. apparently recorded around the time of the death of south african president nelson mandela. >> reporter: a closed door senate briefing on the prisoner swap that brought sergeant bowe bergdahl's freedom was intended to give obama administration critics some answers but it didn't exactly win them over. >> the exchange of five hard-core, hardest the hard-core al qaeda/taliban will pose a threat to the united states of america and the men and women serving use the service meeting took place showing the actual prisoner exchange. senators emerging from
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wednesday's briefing said their focus was on another recording. a so-called proof of life video showing sergeant bergdahl in captivity. in the classified video, bergdahl appears gaunt and apparently had difficulty speaking. u.s. officials say the video showed marked deterioration of bergdahl's health compared to previous videos. they acted quickly to recover him. republicans who spoke for the camera and more than one democrat including joe manchin of west virginia it looks to him like bergdahl was drugged and if it was enough to question the prisoner swap. >> he was not in that type of dire situation when he was released. >> reporter: some republican senators who have been harshly critical of the administration's handling of the bergdahl matter are now saying the administration should lift the restriction on the proof of life video. >> every american should see the video. this is something that we need to put out in the open. you need to look at the video and judge for yourself.
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>> reporter: the former head of joint special operations commander stanley mcchrystal weighed in during an interview with "yahoo! news." well, we don't leave americans behind. that is unequivocal. there will be a lot of discussion on whether the mechanism for getting sergeant bergdahl was right and i'll leave it to people to argue that. >> reporter: this issue is a long way from settled. the closed door senate meeting was held in the hope the administration could tamp down some of the criticism for the prisoner swap but among those senators we heard from afterward it did not appear the white house was able to change any minds. >> joe johns, thank you so much and starting us off this morning. continue our coverage. we are learning the white house isn't just dealing with blowback from bergdahl's release but it prepared for the criticism but officials tell cnn the attacks on bergdahl himself and his family caught the administration by surprise. cnn's jim acosta is traveling with the president in brussels.
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what more are you learning, jim. >> reporter: the white house expected the release of bowe bergdahl would stir up controversy but what they never saw coming was the personal attacks aimed at bergdahl even his family and all of it become a political football democrats say to damage the president. with the president in europe, the administration officials are playing defense over what they thought would be a feel good story. the release of p.o.p. bowe bergda bergdahl. agents to the president say they expected some controversy but surprised on the attacks of his family and a further effort to damage the president. >> it's very interesting to me that they with be willing to release five extraordinarily dangerous taliban members in exchange for this soldier who apparently left his post. we don't know all of the details. >> reporter: conservative critics have accused bergdahl's father of looking like a muslim.
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>> i understand that bowe bergdahl's father looks like a muslim is that he looks like a muslim. >> reporter: chuck hagel reassuring the parents about their son's care. >> it's consistent what has happened in previous wars including korea and vietnam. >> reporter: democrats point out gop lawmakers have pushed the white house for months to step up its efforts to rescue bergdahl even if it means a prisoner change. >> i would support ways of bringing him home and if exchange was one of them, i think that would be something i think we should seriously consider. >> reporter: but senator john mccain insists the deal that finally freed bergdahl is not what he had in mind. >> i learned nothing in this briefing, nor did i expect to learn anything in this briefing, except that i continue to maintain that this individual who we are glad that sergeant bergdahl is home, but the exchange of five hard-core,
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hardest of the hard-core al qaeda/taliban will pose a threat to the united states of america. >> reporter: but for mr. obama, the bergdahl distraction comes at a critical time as he could come face-to-face with russian president vladimir putin for the first time since the vafinvasiof ukraine. >> a europe that is whole and free and at peace. >> reporter: and white house officials are even taking note of the fact that a hometown celebration has been cancelled for bowe bergdahl in his hometown back in idaho. meanwhile the president will have a chance to talk about this bowe bergdahl controversy at a news conference later on today. but white house aides tell me they feel very confident that the in the end that this notion of leaving no soldier behind is really a sentiment that will carry the day once this controversy is behind them.
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kate? >> jim, thank you so much. let's continue the discussion now with cnn political analyst and editor in chief of "the daily beast" john avalon, as well as retired air force colonel and former deputy director for training at the nsa cedric layton. good morning to both you. as you heard from jim acosta right there he is reporting that the white house, they anticipated the backlash and knew this was going to be coming at them but also interesting in politico today, they are reporting one of the reasons behind that rose garden statement with bowe bergdahl's parents was an attempt to try to tamp that down, to make the criticism go away before it even began. what do you think of that choreography? >> it's a fascinating detail they hope to humanize bowe bergdahl by bringing his family to the rose garden on saturday in anticipation of the criticism. the white house seems to have known for a long time that this was a controversial prisoner. the circumstances of his disappearance. >> is complicated. >> are murky at best.
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but -- then the issue of the negotiated swap and what teams sob outraging all of the senators is the underlying question isn't someone who might have been a deserter worth five top taliban commanders? the fact the administration was preparing that and doing choreography to win over the american people is significant. that said and this is significant, kate. has there ever been a time in american history we politicized a prisoner of war in this country? a safe assumption for the white house to make and to leave no soldier behind is a firestorm. >> john mccain said he is not taking issue with the fact that bowe bergdahl returned to his family. he is taking view of five high level taliban detainees were released in conjunction with that. regardless it is walking a fine line saying we are happy to have a soldier home, but still was it worth it to have five detainees put out there? do republicans risk overstepping
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since criticism has come so quickly? >> the risk of overstepping you see republic-- walking that finf trying to make the fair point, what are the national security implications for this trade, that is a fair important point to make as you analyze it but when, all of a sudden, republican congressman who previously were calling for this and krilizing the administration administration for leaving this man in captivity for five years and praising his release and deleting those tweets. >> the senator last nice as jim acosta and joe johns were laying out they saw a proof of life video that they received, i think, five months ago of bowe bergdahl. that he was described in that video by senators as sickly. joe manchin described him as drugged. when you compare that with the video that we have seen publicly, what really, from your military perspective, what can
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you gain? what kind of knowledge can you really ascertain from these proof of life videos? >> kate, they very, very important. what they do is they tell us in the military that, you know, what the prisoner's condition is like. you know, they tell you something about the environment in which the pretty mucher ison held so they are critical not only from a humanitarian aspect but may serve to find a method to gain the release through forcible means or negotiating leverage. those are key aspects to this. i think in this particular case, the proof of life video that classified one especially, they were very -- there was very important factor in getting the administration on the path to negotiating this particular deal. >> in your experience, the senator saw this video last night. many of them coming out saying, it should be made public. should it be made public? >> at this point, yes. because there is no other prisoner at this point. we don't have any other reason
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to keep it classified. the mission has been, in essence, accomplished. it's time for the american people to get a chance to see exactly what our decision-makers have seen so i have no problem of it being made public at this juncture. >> avalon -- i'm sorry, john. i call you avalon off camera. when they came out it did not seem to change minds from the positions they were going in. the white house takes the principle in the end we leave no soldier behind will prevail. is that enough? >> the president was forceful and clear about that during that polish press conference. full stop. a full-court press to convince the senate they were justified in not at the letter of the law. the majority of the senators did not see convinced and senator mark kirk from illinois saying he felt he could understand why
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this prisoner looked -- and the administration would need to act quickly. this is a, right now, a jump ball. it is a political fight that is in mid process but it really does expose the fact of how naked these bad feelings are, the bitter feelings that exist on capitol hill. i don't think anyone -- anyone would suggest if a republican president take this action the vast majority of republican senators would be acting this way. that said there is a national security concern and allies like israeli have a tradition of trading for prisoners in multiples far beyond 5-1 we do not and when we are dealing with the closing of guantanamo it's understandable why there would be serious questions about the wisdom and implications of this. >> serious questions the white house thinks one of the reasons they did not confirm the key lawmakers they were afraid they couldn't keep a secret. that is a real problem when you're dealing with the coordination that must happen between the white house and oversight commits. that is their job. we will continue to fight about
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that one. thank you both so much. let's take a look at the headlines at 12 minutes after the hour. quite a heart pounding scene after military plane crashed into several homes in imperial, california, setting them on fire. we understand that at least three houses were destroyed, eight others had to be evacuated. the pilot ejected and is said to be okay. and luckily there were no injuries on the ground. investigators are now looking into what caused that jet from the air station in neighboring yuma u arizona, to crash. in a few hours, general motors will release details of its internal investigation concerning an ignition switch defect that is linked to dozens of crashes and at least 13 deaths. ceo mary barra authorized a former federal prosecutor to deliver an unvarnished report. trying to figure out what went wrong and why gm waited more than a decade before recalling millions of unsafe vehicles. this is a story we will have more on later in our program. donald sterling's attorney
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says the banned l.a. clippers owner has agreed to the team sale to former microsoft colorado steve ballmer for $2 billion and the deal associated by sterling's wife shelly and sterling said he will drop the lawsuit he filed against the nba. the league owner have to approve the sell by the naba. let's take a look at our weather. >> it's not the weekend and by the weekend this is expected to move out. unfortunately for the morning commute messy out there but not a big system to hang our eyes on today. notice the high pressure over here and high pressure come in and knock it out so we will have a beautiful week in the northeast but not lucky in the south. two systems out there and staying put. this is a problem.
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one side of it being severe weather. another round of it expected today. notice places like denver, oklahoma city, oklahoma, even down towards little rock, we are going to have a threat for more severe weather but check out on tomorrow. remember i said that system is staying? tomorrow, almost identical place looking for more severe weather. that is a concern not only for the severe weather itself, obviously, but heavy rain. 3 to 5 inches possible there and towards the south 2 to 4 inches. the big thing is the temperatures. the weekend in the northeast, it looks good. that is what i want to know. finally after what a six-month winter i'm going outside. >> only now you're going outside? >> i said it me a long time. don't ask. >> on the one hand, indra is saying the weather is bad and i want to enjoy the good weather. on the other hand, she is running around in a car trying to find tornadoes! >> it may not have been completely on free will. >> the tourist is just in the car. >> it was free will. all her idea. >> that is my idea but being a tourism outside, i have to open it up in the city. >> good temperatures over the weekend. >> that's what i'm saying.
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coming up on "new day," the politics surrounding the bowe bergdahl trade, they are obvious and ugly but real issues remain. did soldiers die looking for the captured sergeant? you're going to hear from men who were there and two brave reporters who have dug into the situation. also ahead, a violent shoot-out in a canadian neighborhood leaves three police officers dead and caught on camera and a massive manhunt is under way and the suspect is considered armed and dangerous. we will have more on this coming up. hello! i'm a kid. and us kids have an important message for our grown ups. three grams daily of beta-glucan... a soluable fiber from whole grain oat foods like cheerios can help lower cholesterol. and where can you find beta-glucan? in oats. and, they're yummy! i'm going back to being a kid now.
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a cop killer is on the loose right now. police say this man dressed in military fatigues and openly carrying rifles opened fire on him in a residential neighborhood and killing three officers. the neighborhood in eastern canada now on lockdown. rosa flores is here with more. what do we know. >> reporter: quite the terrifying situation with the suspect still at large, residents are turning to social media to stay informed and to share video of this terrifying shoot-out. a canadian city on lockdown this morning. >> do you see him? >> reporter: royal canadian
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mountain police are conducting a desperate search for a man who allegedly shot and killed three of their fellow officers last night and wounded two more. look at this video of the scene. shattered windows of a police vehicle, blood spread across the pavement. >> oh, my god! [ bleep ] what is that? go down? >> he shot him. >> oh, my god! he shot a cop! >> reporter: 24-year-old suspect justin bourque is seen wearing fatigues and carrying two rifles in this photo tweeted by authorities. there's no word on why he allegedly attacked the officers in the rampage. in this facebook video, residents are seen watching in horror. >> get down! move [ bleep ] now! >> oh, my [ bleep ] god! >> reporter: as the tense standoff unfolds right outside their window. >> they are not moving. they are right here. they are still all behind cars
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waiting. they are behind cars. they are behind vans. they are behind a shed. they are behind a house with their guns down and waiting for him to shoot him down. >> reporter: police warning residents to keep their outdoor lights on and to stay off the roads. >> we are still actively looking for the shooter. we are urging the people who live in that area to stay inside and lock their doors. >> reporter: all entrances to that neighborhood have been blocked off and some buses have even been pulled off the road because of concern for public safety as the search for this gunman continues so a lot of scared residents this morning. >> understandably so when you see what they were witness to. my god. thanks so, rosa. the stanley cup is under way. finally, game one in the books. the l.a. kings and new york rangers needing some overtime to decide game one of the series. andy schoals with all of the
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answers. what happened? >> it was a very good game. new york fans have been waiting about 20 -- 20 years exactly actually to get back to the finals and came out in huge numbers to watch game one at bryant park. they got to watch a thriller in this one. time winding down in the third period, henrik lundqvist, amazing diving save! that would send the game into overtime! in the extra period, justin williams, mr. game seven, comes through for the kings again. that is your game winning goal. l.a. takes game one 3-2. game two is saturday night. trending on bleacherreport.com this morning, the nfl is abandons roman numerals for the 50th super bowl. the game in santa clara is known as super bowl 50 because the league didn't like the look reportedly of a super bowl "l" logo which makes sense but after super bowl 50, the nfl will be going back to the old roman numerals. the nba finals get under way
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tonight in san antonio. a rematch of last year's thrilling series. the oddsmakers have the spurs the slight favorite since they have the home court advantage this time. heat is looking for their third trade nba finals. tip-off is at 9:00 eastern tonight. i wrestled with the decision who to pick in this year's nba finals. i'm going to go with the heat in six. i think lebron is going to get his third straight title. >> what is that stat? who wins 70% of the time? >> whoever takes game one wins the game 70% of the time in the nba finals. >> new daddy has got the heat. who do you have? >> i'm going to go with new daddy. i think his new daddy stature has brought him wisdom. >> i'm going with the kings. why are you not picking your pick in hockey? hello! >> that is hockey. >> what is wrong with you? >> that is the nhl. >> i know but i'm trying to get to the major story who is the hockey. who are you picking in the nhl
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playoffs? >> i'm a ranger fan obviously. we were talking about to mike one and the cameraman and i were talking about. >> lamenting. >> that hurt me last night so we have to wager mixture from the west coast. >> who are you picking, andy? >> the kings have the 1-0 lead so i'm going with the l.a. kings. they have the upper hand. >> when in doubt, go for whoever is ahead. there you go, andy! >> the rangers will come back. they have destiny on their side. destiny. >> thank you, mr. schoals. up next on "new day" were fellow soldiers killed searching for bowe bergdahl? more of his comrades are coming forward insisting that is the case. the pentagon says they don't know the facts. we are going to take a look at the evidence. a global war of words. vladimir putin fires back after hillary clinton compared him to hitler based on what he said in return, she should have called him sexist too! details straight ahead!
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president bush's meeting with foreign leaders is overshadow by the release of bowe bergdahl. now cnn is told the attacks on bergdahl and his family caught the administration by surprise. breaking overnight. at least 29 people, including firefighters and civilians, injured after a big fire on staten island in new york city. flaems broke out after 1:00 in the morning in a multifamily home and then it spread to other buildings. one child was thrown out the window to safety, but was caught by a man on the street. most of the injuries, we are told, are to firefighters. the fire department says most are not life-threatening. some of the tech world's biggest names are asking for limits on nsa surveillance. an open letter from the ceo of microsoft, apple, facebook, and other tech companies, asked the senate to put more restriction oz nsa data collection saying a bill passed by the house two weeks ago doesn't go far enough
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to protect internet privacy. the senate intelligence committee meets today to discuss the house bill. the legendary don zimmer has died. he was a baseball lifer. his major league career spanning six decades as a player, a manager, a coach, and executive. the man they called popeye once bragged he never got a paycheck for anything else. zimmer was still working for the tampa bay rays when he died wednesday. he had been enter a florida medical center since having heart surgery back in april. don zimmer was 83. . i think one of the nicest quotes i've seen from him, chris, is quote, all i've ever been is a simple baseball man. that's a guy who loved the game. >> a beautiful thing to be. what a life he had. we want to get back to the bergdahl situation right now. one of the haunting questions did american troops die looking for bowe bergdahl? there are reports that at least six soldiers lost their lives in the search. but is that true? a tough question.
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by the way, here is another. in an army that prides itself on leaving no man behind, does how bergdahl ended up in the enemy's hands matter? we say, tough questions, but we have to try to find some answers. for that we bring in a "the new york times" reporters who looked into the matter and andy, thank you for joining us. you hear from the soldiers. you cannot question their motivation for coming out. their brothers and sisters, they are fighting buddies, they are everything to them. the people who were with bergdahl say after he was taken, all we did was look for him. so anyone question lothey lost e is connected to that effort and to them died looking for bergdahl. what do the facts on the ground suggest? >> sure. certainly no doubt that the soldiers are very sincere about what they are saying and together with my colleague charlie savage, one of the things we did is we looked at what the army personnel on the ground at the time in this
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eastern province of afghanistan were doing and what they were thinking at that time. we are very fortunate. we have these military dispatches, the war logs that we can go through. some are classified secrets. you go through them. what you see in the weeks and months leading up to the time when bergdahl was abducted, as well as afterwards, there was a huge increase in activity. the ha kwqqani were fighting mortars and shooting and a lot of activity going on. let's take the first two deaths that have been attribute to the hunt for bergdahl. these occurred on a nearby base. when you look at the actual dispatches written contemporaneously at the time that all of this was going on, the military intelligence assessment at that moment was
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this is all died to the buildup we have been experiencing the last three months. >> they don't reference the bergdahl search? >> they do not in that particular moment. >> what about the feeling that -- well, okay. >> it is the fog of war so a lot of completing views but we are trying to by point out here is what the military was writing at this time. >> is it a fair assessment those on the ground we weren't getting the same amount of resources to combat the hostile its because they were dedicate to looking for bergdahl and we are using that as a basis of belief if we had those resources we would have fought better and wouldn't have taken losses so we attribute that to the search for bergdahl? >> no doubt they were searching for bergdahl and that is going to require some resources. keep in mind, so that july fourth deaths, these occurs not on a road block, not in pursuit somewhere. these occurred on a base itself on -- >> that were under siege? >> that is correct'.
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outposts that had been undersiege before bergdahl's abduction easement did you find any reports that of search parties, search missions where there was a death or an injury? >> of a search mission? >> an actual search mission. >> we are still looking. we are trying to find where you can actually pinpoint it to being a search mission. we have gone through the casualties that we have identified in pakiqua province going into november and, so far, we have not been able to clearly identify any one of those deaths to a taliban ambush or something like that in pursuit of bergdahl. >> there's a temptation for people in our business to get into the weeds with this. you are looking for proof of this allegation. >> we are just trying to point out this is a complex situation. >> reporter: when you pull back from it, and you look, why does this matter? deaths of americans certainly matters, killed in action matters. no question about that. >> absolutely. >> but these circumstances they
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were killed looking for bergdahl, are we being kind of pushed into an analysis by political pressure? what is the value in this analysis, do you think? >> well, for myself as a journalist, what i'm trying to do is look just at what we know at that time. there are -- >> here are the facts, let's establish them? >> right. i'm sure have you some incredibly capable political correspondents in d.c. who might be able to address those questions. i'm just trying to go back, you know, with my colleagues at "the times" go ae back and see what was happening on the ground at that time. >> do you feel that some of the pressure and the inquiry is somewhat artificial? we understand why the soldiers care about who died and what they were doing at the time. these are their brothers and sisters, but its existence in the realm of the dynamic of this store, what do you think it means in terms of the story this particular aspect who died doing what in the search for bowe bergdahl? >> i think one of the things that gets lost in this discussion is bringing our readers and your viewers back to
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2009. this was a time when the war was escalating dramatically. troops were coming beginning -- were beginning to be sent in as part of the search. 2009 was going to become a year where twice -- it was going to be the bloodiest year up to that point in that conflict. and we were going to have twice as many casualties as we experienced the year before and that was definitely occurring in the province, in the area where bergdahl was. >> no small irony from those who cover the war that during the time it was so hard for us to get stories on about what was happening for our fighting men and women and the casualties they were taking and how heavy it was getting. now in the aftermath when talking about a rescue, the reporting is bearing fruit and people are paying attention to it. not them, but now and the question is why but at least we are getting the facts established and, andy, thank you for helping us with, there at the "the new york times." >> thank you. coming up next, she compared him to hitler and now vladimir
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welcome back. it's a war of words between vladimir putin and hillary clinton and clinton recently compared the russian president's action in ukraine to shthose of hitler and putin is fighting back and bringing gender into a fight in a new interview. brianna keilar has more. >> reporter: russian president vladimir putin taking a jab at former secretary of state hillary clinton, saying it's better not to argue with women, but miss clinton has never been too graceful in her statements. his sexual barbs come after much criticism by clinton who compared his tactics in ukraine to those of the most reviled figure in modern history. >> now if this sounds familiar, it's what hitler did back in the
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'30s. >> reporter: a day later she walked that comment back a bit but also called putin this. >> a tough guy with a thin skin use then this memorable description of putin in early april. >> he will even, you know, throw an insult your way. he will look bored and dismiss sieve and do all of that but i have a lot of experience with people acting like that, so it's not like, you know, it goes back to like elementary school! >> reporter: and later that month, she dinged putin as she slammed nsa leaker edward snowden for fleeing to russia. putin dismissed clopt's words wednesday saying when people push boundaries too far not because they are too strong but weakness but maybe weakness is not a quality for women. clinton the face of the failed 2009 reset with russia and putin kicked out of the now g-7 and
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facing further sanctions if russia doesn't help stabilize ukraine but this bombast serves a purpose. but clinton too is looking for support. a possible presidential contender seen as distancing herself from an unpopular president by highlighting her harder line on russia. brianna keilar, cnn, washington. ♪ >> it's kind of weird. it's like a spat that could be going on in some office. >> that's the thing. >> or social circle. >> or maybe on a playground somewhere? >> yeah, now they control the peace of the entire globe. >> i know. >> interesting. you're a man. >> i know. >> you're dumb. that's how we will start our fight. >> i am. i will have agreed with that. everything you're complaining is probably true, because i'm a man. coming up on "new day" as if president obama, another man, didn't have enough to deal with. now there is controversy surrounding his workout routine.
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♪ ♪ pump it up pump it up pump up the jam pump it up ♪ ♪ >> i never thought we would use this music for the president. president obama is pumping iron at a marriott in warsaw, poland. the video posted a facebook by a
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fellow gym user offering us a rare glimpse into the president's life and the way he works out. free weights there and squats. despite the concern the secret service says, no, no security breach here. rahm was the first presidential video grapher for the president. you saw the president in more sort of candid moments behind the scenes. what walker reaction to seeing this workout? >> it really felt like -- it felt like my old job. this president, president obama is somebody who just acts the same on and off camera and has this unique ability not to care about it. he is aware that everybody in that gym has a cell phone and taking a video and i think he is for a tall skinny guy working
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out is awesome. >> i think one tall skinny guy talking to another skinny guy there. this is interesting. so many people making a lot about the fact this seems like an intrusion and then the other aspect of it seems like a security breach there could be security concerns about the president. you've been in situations like this. it wasn't so. you don't think? >> oh, absolutely not. you know, anyone who is in that hotel has already gone through a lot of security measures and the secret service knows how to do this kind of thing. i think it's unusual for us to see the president working out you in a gym but as a security level no different than getting pancakes in iowa and you have on-to-case out the place. >> it's impressive. he is just going alone. no trainer doing his own thing. talk about this bubble the president is kind of able to allow himself to be in even though he must know all eyes are on him. >> i just think he has this amazing ability to create private space even in a public
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setting where there is chaos. for me, this gym tape is almost, although a great example of the new polish cinema is no different than pete seusa's photo of the first lady and the president touch heads in an elevator and 42 share this intimate moment. to create that space and especially without the modern pressure of so many cameras and phones, you would go crazy. >> are you seeing something here we are not seeing a new polish cinema? >> it's definitely european with the angles and i think it's strong work. western world will have to catch up with this. >> we all get our sweat on at the gym and we all grimace when lifting a weight and too much for us? what do you think it is?
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>> i think it's absolutely the case. i think when you look at this, it doesn't take more than a couple of seconds to register it as being very authentic and very real and not put on. this is sort of the option kind of release of a video of putin, right? this is not him stratengling a tiger on top of a course while he is shirtless but somebody doing what they do in a nonglamorous way and i think a way of communicating permit. >> i suppose. i have to tell you i would not take kindly to somebody reorganized my workout on video. how about you? >> me neither. that is why neither of us are are running for president. >> very good point. it's really interesting to see because you say his guard is down and he's in his own kind of zone. reminds me a little bit, although when we saw the former president clinton or bush out jogging, they were more aware of the cameras being there and they kind of played to it often. >> i think especially when bill clinton would jog up to the
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mcdonald's just north of the white house. i think that was as much an event to celebrate, you know, with everyone as it was wanting a private moment. >> some irony there. >> i think with this president you really find he is able to create private calm moments which, i think, what we like about his personality and why we elected him and re-elected him. >> he is certainly in the zone in ma marriott hotel in warsaw, poland. thank you for joining us and appreciate talking to you. >> you too. >> i like how you say we get our sweat on. >> absolutely. >> well put. there are big stories starting your new day. disturbing new details about the bowe bergdahl swap. did the u.s. get a bum report? the report into the gm ignition switch recall. why did it take a decade to do anything? skipping breakfast? but it's the most important meal and you're not supposed to do that. maybe it's not a bad thing after all. info and answers ahead. let's go.
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>> bergdahl is not a hero. >> aides to the president are shocked what they describe as a tax on bergdahl. >> when left he had no intention ever returning back to that post. >> he did not serve with honor and he did not serve with dignity. >> we should not judge until we know the facts. >> smoke billows into the air as flames engulf a military plane. >> i saw it falling from the sky and spinning out of control. >> watch out! get back! >> i knew in my heart, there was something wrong with the car. >> the defects in this key system resulted in loss of control and her death. good morning. welcome back. the obama administration is hoping a proof of life video will stop the bowe bergdahl backlash. the video not made public apparently shows bergdahl in poor health and forcing the administration's hand but a handful of skeptical senators who got to watch the video are not convinced. >> i learned nothing in this briefing nor did i expect to
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learn anything in this briefing. >> i remain as deeply skeptical today about this as i did before this conversation that we just had with the administration. for two days now, we have asked questions and many of which not been fully answered. from everything we have been presented i'm not convinced that these five individuals that have been released will soon return to the fight against america. raises a question is this about proof at all or just politics? foreign affairs reporter is live from washington and has new details on the prisoner exchange. right now we believe this was about more than just health, yes? >> reporter: that's right, chris. the u.s. never had that specifity on the health that bowe bergdahl could guy but a knowledgeable source tells me not only were they concerned about his health but they didn't want the deal to fall apart. this 30-day notification that congress said they didn't get seemed like a long time to the u.s. team to have a handshake with the taliban figuratively
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and then wait to execute the deal something could go wrong during that time, for instance. if the deal leaked, they didn't know that every foot soldier guarding bowe bergdahl would have done to him. >> it's interesting. let's look at that a little bit more. you've reported in the past the u.s. team in qatar, they weren't confident the deal would go through unless special forces had bergdahl in hand. why were they hesitant? >> reporter: the u.s. and taliban have been talking since 2010 but during the indirect talks the last year it was tough. it took sometimes a week or more, several weeks for the qataris to get back to the u.s. after the u.s. passed the message to the taliban so they were never really sure that deal would go through and what the foot soldiers on the ground would do until those special forces had them in hand. >> tell us more about the negotiation process and how the qataris were involved. how difficult was this process? >> reporter: well, my sources are telling me it was a very
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long and arduous process. those talks started in 2010, as i said, but it wasn't until the last year that qatar really got involved and this wasn't any kind of shuttle diplomacy, if you will. qatar would get a message from the u.s., give it to the taliban, and then weeks would go by. the u.s. would be waiting with bated breath to see what would happen and then they would come back to them. sometimes the u.s. team would go to qatar for a few hours, pass the message and not hear back for a week so it was really fits and starts over the last year, but when president obama spoke to the emir of qatar the past week they broke a deal and knew something was in play. >> the main point of criticism you can't find these guys and have to wait weeks because you don't know where they are to get any kind of an answer. then you release five members of the taliban and say we could keep track of them. and that has created a lot of
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the controversy here. what do your sources say about their ability to keep track of the five members of the taliban who have been released? >> reporter: well, these assurances were given to the president by the emir of country, the head of the country. these five are not under house arrest. let's be clear. they are free to roam around the country. but the qataris are limiting their activities, that prevent them from rejoining the taliban movement right now. they are not able to fund-raise, for instance. they are not able to do any activities that would increase insightment, let's say. let's be clear. i mean, sources aren't saying this directly, but their communications are going to be monitored. while they may have a incident quality of life the difference is their life in qatar will make for the taliban on the battlefield and u.s. officials say it's really possible that they try to rejoin the movement, but, you know, given the time that they have been away from their networks and fighting the
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u.s., their ability to harm the remaining u.s. forces are the afghans going forward, the u.s. thinks it's minimal, chris. >> the question is what is the basis of that confidence. thank you for helping us get more of an inviting into how this went down. appreciate it. kate? >> thanks, chris. joining us to discuss is one of the senators who was in that closed door meeting last night and saw that proof of life video. senator angus king, an independent from maine and serves on on the senate's very important intelligence committee. senator, it's good to see you and thank you so much for coming in. >> thank you, kaitte. >> reporter: you were in this two-hour closed door meeting last night. from what you've heard so far, was this a good deal? >> i think that is hard to say. i think you have to start, kate, with the premise we bring our soldiers home. that is an principle going back to george washington and it's just something that we do. the issue ises that flow out of that, you know, what kind of
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soldier was he, what was his -- how did he leave, all of those kinds of things, and then was it a good deal, i think you start with a premise we get our people home. that was accomplished. now how you weigh it, you know, i got to say, kate, i'm a little bit amused about we got 535 secretaries of state and presidents around here. this is an outfit that can't decide its way out of a wet paper bag and, all of a sudden, everybody is saying, well, i would have done it this way and i would have done it that way, meanwhile, we are not getting anything done. aside from that, i think, you know, you do have to look at the deal but we don't know what the alternatives were. we don't know what the demands were. we don't know what the options were other than this deal to get this p.o.w. back and i think, you know, it remains to be seen. the one thing we know for sure is we got him back. what happens in the next year, we don't know what is going to happen and there's some argument
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any way that there's an opportunity here to create some level of reconciliation because, ultimately, the taliban and the government of afghanistan are going to have to reach some kind of accommodation, otherwise, it's an ongoing war. >> with that, where you are today, i mean, it seems this clearly has moved quickly into being a political battle, but do you think what you've heard so far, that this is a good deal? because you don't think there was an alternative? >> well, i went into the meeting yesterday with a lot of questions, frankly, and a lot of skepticism and a lot of those questions were answered and so i'm -- >> what were your big questions, senator? >> well, the big questions were, you know, what were the condition -- what was his condition? why now? what was the pressure toward doing it now? of course, the other big question from the point of view of congress was the 30-day notification requirement and why didn't we do that? i think, frankly, a mistake was made there. i can understand the administration's argument. by the way, i pressed in the
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hearing on opening some of this information up. they had intelligence that had even the fact of these discussions leaked out. there was a reasonable chance bowe bergdahl would have been killed and that was one of the pieces of information that we learned yesterday that gave it some credence in terms of why it had to be kept quiet so long. now the question is was there something between a 30-day notification between congress in a formal way and informing the leaders of the intelligence services committee or the armed services committee, there could have been notification that would have been somewhat more secure on a widespread notification to congress and i think there were mistakes made. but, you know, the president also has some inherent powers as commander in chief. this wasn't releasing prisoners in guantanamo in order to close guantanamo. it was releasing prisoners as
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part of a prisoner swap which, as i say, goes back to george washington, the civil war and world war ii that is what you have to do, particularly as hostile its are winding down. >> a couple of questions on what you just said there. in terms of the notification to congress. i mean, essentially what the administration is saying they didn't think they could notify any of you without it leaking out. they even think the members of the very important senate intelligence committee can keep a secret. do you believe that reasoning? >> no, i don't buy that and i think that is why i say i think it was a mistake. dianne feinstein and saxby chambliss know a lot of things they are keeping secrets and they are able to keep secrets. i think the administration made a mistake in not at least notifying some limited people in congress. i think clearly that was -- that was something that they should have done. so, you know, i now understand better the sense of urgency that
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they had. >> can i ask you about that, though? the sense of urgency. bowe bergdahl's condition is a big question, big factor in awful this. and you saw this video. it's classified and has not been released. can you describe how he looked in that proof of life video you saw in that meeting? >> he looked terrible. and i think that video should be released at some point. he could barely talk. he couldn't focus his eyes. he was downcast. he was thin. he looked like a man -- i looked around the room, as that video was shown, and i think it was clearly effective when the video stopped, it wasn't very long, maybe 30 seconds, there was a dead silence in the room. and i think, you know, there are people now saying he didn't look that sick and all that. >> senator manchin thought he may have looked drug and that doesn't really speak to a dire health situation. >> of course, not.
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i'm not going to diagnose this guy's health 3,000 miles away on a second video. he did look bad. i think the urgency -- there were a couple of things going on. one was the idea that he could be killed. now, you know, let's turn the story around. what if this deal hadn't been made and the story today is american p.o.w. dies in taliban camp and beheaded in kabul and the president didn't take a deal that was offered? we would be having all of the same criticism coming from the opposite direction and, you know, that is why i say, you know, the administration made it a very difficult decision. i'm not sure i would have made the same decision but, on the other hand, i'm not sure -- you know, i'm a little uncomfortable sitting up here and saying, well, we would have done it differently and we would have sent four team instead of five or three. you know, whatever. >> senator, you make a fair point and that gets to a very important question that is starting to come out. the question of how this becomes
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so political so fast. i would venture to is a it's gotten very ugly very fast. do you think the white house botched this? or do you think as the white house flames it they are blaming president complaining only because the president pulled this off? >> well, i think as i mentioned, i think the white house did make a mistake in not briefing at least the leadership in congress earlier. so, okay, there is a mistake. on the other hand, i got to tell you, it's really tiresome to see everything turned into a partisan issue. let's take a deep breath and look at the facts. and, you know, it's very disturbing that people are try the sky and the press about did he desert or what do his men say? americans are entitled to due process and one of the things we fight for! that is one of the reasons we are out in the world and the principle is, a, we bring our soldiers back and, b, we don't try them in the press. we give them due process when they get back. i got to say all this firestorm
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of what looks to me like pretty much political criticism is pretty tiresome and, you know, let's take a deep breath, get the facts so we know what we are talking about, and then assess and we will have plenty of time to assess, a, what kind of soldier he was and, b, whether this was a reasonable deal. you know, the israelis several years ago traded a thousand palestinian prisoners for one israeli soldier. >> the difference here is the united states does not do that as policy. of course, you know that. >> well, we swap prisoners. we do swap prisoners. we have always done that so let's be clear about that. >> correct. one final question. did you receive -- do you think that you received assurance or a guarantee from administration officials in this briefing that these five detainees will not return to the fight? most importantly, will not pose a threat to the united states
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and its allies? >> no. absolutely not. there was no such guarantee. in fact, explicitly the intelligence people explicitly said that is a risk. i think it is a risk. you know, this is one of those situations where, you know, a year from now, the president will look like a genius because he got our p.o.w. home, or people will say, look, those guys went back and got back into the fight. i don't think there's any way to make that call right now. clearly it's a high-risk deal. would i have made the deal? i don't know. i can't answer that because i don't know all of the facts and i don't know what the other options are to get this man. there is one other very important point that needs to get out there. there is a reasonable legal argument that these five guys would have had to be released any way within the next year under the law of war. they were being held in guantanamo as enemy combatants. under the law of war, when hostility cease, enemy combatants have to be released.
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we could have argued we held them under other authority or civilian authority but a reasonable argument this may have been the last chance to get bergdahl where these guys had true value to us as a negotiating tool because if they had to be released any way we would be in the same situation without bowe bergdahl home. >> that clearly goes into the white house's calculation of this. senator, always great to get your honest take pthank you for the time. >> thank you. frightening video to show you. imagine this happening on your street. southern california, a military plane crashes into several homes, setting them on fire. at least three houses destroyed and several others evacuations. what caused this horrific crash? cnn's rosa flores is here with more. >> reporter: this is something you can't prepare for. imagine just hanging out at home and what appears to be a normal afternoon and then a plane falls out of the sky, plunging into homes. that is exactly what happened here.
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a fighter jet just crashed into this house here. >> smoke billows into the air as flames engulf a military plane. >> get out! get out of the way! >> reporter: after crashing into a residential neighborhood in imperial, california. last month, a different avab harrier jet from the marine corps station in yuma, arizona, also crashed. >> you saw it falling in the sky spinning out of control and when it exploded we ran out there. >> reporter: the blaze destroyed three homes and forced the evacuation of an entire block. ammunition can be heard exploding from inside one of the burning houses. remarkably, no one in the neighborhood was hurt. >> what about the guys supposed to be in there. >> reporter: in this cell phone video, drenresidents can be see helping the pilot who ejected
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from the jet shortly before the crash. >> as soon as i saw the pilot hit the pavement, he hit really hard. at first when i got there, he was unconscious. they told him not to move. >> reporter: the marines say the pilot is currently being evaluated at a local hospital for minor injuries. we should also add that this is the second time a harrier jet has crashed within the past month. in the previous crash, the pilot also ejected successfully and no one was hurt. now the cause of this crash is still under investigation. michaela? >> that could have been so much worse, although the families that lost their homes, i'm sure they are struggling to understand it all. rosa, thanks so much. take a look at the other headlines right now. intense manhunt is under way in new brunswick, canada, for a suspect who authorities say fatally shot three officers in a residential neighborhood. the suspect is identified as justin bourque. police released this picture of him. he is dressed in military faegs and seemingly carrying two rifles. take a look at this video posted
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on facebook and captures the first terrifying moments of that shoot-out. >> oh, my god! [ bleep ] did he go down? >> he is shot. >> call 911! oh, my god! >> two other officers were injured in the shooting and are now listed in stable condition. residents in the area are being urged and warned to stay indoors. president obama is meeting with g-7 leaders today in brussels. the russians are being excluded for their action in ukraine. obama will meet with british prime minister david cameron and then he'll head to paris where he'll sit down with the french president. the meetings come as the administration deals with fallout from the deal to get sergeant bowe bergdahl released. today acting v.a. secretary sloan gibson visits the phoenix hospital where the names of 1,700 vets were left off a waiting list for medical care. the patients have now been
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contact. they are working to get them help. cnn was first to report on treatment delays. in the meantime, the senate will not be able to vote on a veteran aid bill today because a dozen senators are leaving for france to attend d-day ceremonies. those are your headlines at this hour. >> thanks. coming up next, gm about to go public with an internal report on why it took ten years to recall cars with defective ignition switches linked to at least 13 deaths. plus inside politics gets inside the bergdahl backlash. did the white house get caught by surprise here? the outrage from politicians, some have been caught red-handed changing their tune. tweets being deleted to cover tracks! details ahead!
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a cop killer is on the loose right now. police say this man dressed in military fatigues and openly carrying rifles opened fire on police in a residential neighborhood killing three officers. we have been telling you about this story throughout the morning. it's happening in eastern canada. we have had rosa flores reporting on it and we will tell you more as we learn more about it. another story we want to pick up on this morning that cnn has learned that more than a dozen gm employees will be leaving the company as a result of the report into faulty
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ignition switches. you remember this. it was about the delay. why did it take so long as long as ten years? how many lives did it cost? now we are waiting for this big report. chief business correspondent christine romans is here with us. poppy harlow is live in warren, michigan, where the report is coming out. we are going to cover all angles of this. right to poppy. what is the news about what is in this report allowing for the obvious conflict that they are investigating themselves? >> reporter: well, yes. they did bring in an outside investigator former u.s. attorney to do this. but it's an internal investigation. we will get the details at 9:00 a.m. when they release it. they have held on this tightly y leaked yet but a source within general motors told me within the last hour more than a dozen people are leaving gm as a failure of this company to alert the public to a deadly safety defect in millions of its cars. we know that these are not layoffs, quote, from that
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source. they did something wrong. what we want to find out, how high did this go? did the ceo at the time know? did top executives know? or was this just very sloppy work and data analysis that was never got above the engineering level? was there a cover-up? or was this just bad practice? that is the question. other question in focus is what will gm do for the victims here? how will they be compensated in all of this? chris, i think those are the two key things we want to know from gm today. >> right. the first part has christine and us looking at each other sideways here because it's hard to trust what reporting comes out because it seems so obvious that they must have known going up the chain. very little happens in a company like this where management is blind to it. now you have the company looking at itself even with a new ceo. what they will do for the victims matters. >> it does. >> when you look at the fallout, stock prices is up and that means the street doesn't think the fine, plus the fallout will hurt the prices.
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>> stock price is up 7.2% since it was announced and sales are up. the truth about the money behind this company is that someone wants to go buy a gm car they are buying a chevy or cadillac. i'm going to buy one any way. they are all the same company or they care about the model they are going to buy and think this is about 2005 models. but look. what they pay out for the victims is going to be very important from a p.r. and humanitarian perspective. these families are very upset and some only recently finding out they are in this recall. very important for the ceo and this company. >> jim is saying it's 13. gm is saying it's 13. >> it could be higher, that's right. poply can tell you families are not officially counted in this number who are very, very scared and concerned that their loved
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one died because of this ignition switch. >> poppy, that is what it is matters most here. the company looking into itself and puts the number 13 out there. we know others believe that number should be bigger. you know it firsthand from families. what did you learn? >> reporter: even kninhtsa has d they believe the number is higher than 13. gm is sticking with that number. maybe it will change today in the report. we don't know. but look. general motors, to be clear, is only counting here, chris, frontal end crashes where air bags did not deploy and not counting people who died in the back seat of the car. the one case only counting person in the front seat and not counting side impact collisions. that is really key. we spent this week talking to beth and ken melton who lost their daughter brooke melton in a crash they believe was caused by this ignition switch defect. listen to what they told me.
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>> i would gladly give my last breath just to hug her and tell her i loved her one more time. just one more time. >> i kept thinking that this is not possible. it's her birthday. it can't. this can't have happened that she died. >> when i touched her hand, it was cold. i knew in my heart and my gut there was something wrong with the car, that it wasn't her fault. >> reporter: brooke melton is not counted on gm's list of 13 victims. there are a lot of other families out there like this. they want some answers and we will see if we get more answers today. >> what am i missing here? poppy, thank you for digging into the families and getting us to understand that perspective because that is what matters most here. what am i missing? this company is looking into itself. how is that the solution? i know they had to pay a fine and it was a $35 million fine. if we want to say it's meaningless there is proof because the street who measures this, wall street says it was
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nothing. >> their revenue is 400 million a day and selling more cars last month. sales 35 million is negligible. what happens here is the reputation of this company and what kind of -- what kind of money they are going to have to pay out to these victims and how many victims there are and what happens to the reputation of the ceo mary barra who has been there all the time. this sloppy safety lapse was happening and be in their own silo and not know about it. >> barra has said i will take the pull by tbull by it and tak horns here. this is not what gm will be known for any more. did she ask to have anybody objective look into the interesting? >> she is getting high marks on capitol hill with her transparency with people who oversee -- congress members really and doing a lot of outreach with congress members and she is getting high marks from them about the forthcoming what happened in the past and trying to be more safety conscious in the future. >> what is the chance that the
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company will be as punitive on itself as an outside impartial investigative body would be on the company? >> i don't know. we will have to ask kenneth fine fineberg. >> thank you for telling us this of the story of the families involved, poply. that is what it comes down to. coming up a homecoming interrupted. celebration in honor of bowe bergdahl cancelled over the controversy with the prisoner swap with the taliban continue to grow. we will hear from a friend in sergeant bergdahl's idaho town coming up. we grow big celebrations, and personal victories. we grow new beginnings, and better endings. grand gestures, and perfect quiet. we grow escape, bragging rights, happier happy hours. so let's gro something greater with miracle-gro. what will you grow?
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welcome back. let's get to washington and inside politics on "new day" with john king. >> good morning. i had a little audio issue this. sorry. inside politics now. christina bellconey and jonathan martin. start with the big debate over bowe bergdahl. our jim sciutto saying the five taliban pretty muchers released in exchange as for one u.s. military service men. what they didn't expect is the personal criticism of bowe bergdahl who left his post and many men in his unit consider him a deserter and unfaithful. as this criticism plays out it's getting personal. listen to a congressman from the san diego area himself in an iraq war veteran on fox news. >> as john kerry threw his medals over the white house fence and turned his back on all
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of his vietnam brothers and sisters, that's what bergdahl did. bergdahl walked away from his men and he left them in a bad spot. people lost their lives and got hurt trying to find him. >> that's pretty personal there bringing john kerry into the debate in his vietnam experience. how could the white house not anticipated the record? it is part of the public record. the whole five years of what to do about bowe bergdahl whether to stage a raid to get him and whether to bring him back and exchange prisoners for him is always part of the conversation he walked off the base is what his fellow servicemen reported. >> right. look. it's taking page out of the george w. bush playbook. you raise this idea of improvement patriotism. don't let it get tried in the newspaper regardless of the facts. >> jonathan. lindsey graham saying president
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obama still wants to close down gitmo. that is a 2008 campaign promise. he says if he releases any other prisoners and some on the right will talk about impeaching him. >> i don't know if we are going to get that far but it is aion are. i think an indication of some of the obama and white house problems in the second term. if you look at the trip to afghanistan, for example, feel-good moment. it's muffed by the fact that they accidentally released the name of a station chief for us. and then this seemingly a feel good. >> big rose garden ceremony. >> saturday weekend story. then there is more to come now. but it turns out, 2012 "rolling stone" did a big piece about this story so not like these were new facts that somehow we didn't know that, yes, in the fact there were questionable circumstances about why he was a p.o.w. >> when senators came out of
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their briefing yesterday they were very unhappy the way their questions were responded to. mark kirk from illinois was sfruf frustrated saying they told us they would get back to us. >> democrats and republicans think this white house has disstained for congress and said we will come to the briefing and check the box and did that. questions about politics had then and now moments when the news first leaked more than half a dozen politicians wanted to be involved in the conversation and used social media and say welcome home and a great day for america and think about the political ram nisks maybe their political stats and gave up to the details. let's focus on one of them because he is also involved in another issue at the moment. a runoff. thad cochran the republican senator from mississippi. his tea party challenger got more votes than him in the primary. thad cochran tweeted home the following.
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that was then pulled down. deleted. sorry, folks. you can pull them down but you can't make them go away! and then three days, 13 hours ago, he tweeted this. details of president obama's taliban prisoner exchange and propensity to ignore the law raises national security questions. number one, you can't have it both ways. you just can't. sorry. and, number two, this is just another fundamental misstep by a 36-year senate incumbent. 40-year congressional incumbent who said himself he didn't really want to run and he keeps making mistakes. >> and gives ammunition to the mcdaniel campaign which feels new energy coming out on top by a little bit of votes. we have new reporting at "roll call" this morning and kyle is looking at what the strategy is for the cochran campaign. not just him but all of his allies coming. haley barbour fighting for this and really going at what has this senator done for mississippi? they are starting a new campaign, especially down on the gulf coast where he
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underperformed on tuesday night to try to say, this is where his hometown connections are and they are going aggressively after mcdaniel. >> it is so hard to get a broader base of voters to turn out in a runoff. it's hard enough in the primary. >> in the middle of the summer. >> the tea party crowd think they have got him so they have energy and they are coming. that is the thing. jonathan, a race where a lot of races came in. crossroads of the karl rove organization did they with -- made a donation for another superpact there saying we are pulling out and not involved in this primary any more. a key member of establishment one of the groups helping out there. he called this a drive-by shooting. a public drive-by shooting by crossroads. will those groups now go after mcdaniel knowing that the price could be, if he wins, that they help the democrats in november? >> that is the big question looming over this runoff. which of the groups on both sides play, how aggressively do they play? the fact crossroads did that yesterday didn't tweak other
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members of the republican establishment and seen this unnecessary in the moment, in the hours after the primary. what i am fascinated by in mississippi was my reporting yesterday is it's very clear that the cochran campaign will turn this into a minigeneral election and they now saying we don't care if you're black or white. the comment in mississippi speaks volumes because that state is 37% african-americans and they are going to openly seek democratic and independent votes now because frankly it could be the only way cochran finds a way back. >> absolutely. >> so i think you're going to see a much broader campaign, more unapologetic campaign and that might be the only path he has to survive. it's a narrow one but what else can he do, john? >> in a general election this is not a strong democratic state by any means. childress might be able to come close in a comeback bid if mcdaniel is a nominee. >> one fast note. if you voted in a democratic
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primary, though, you cannot participate in a republican runoff. that narrows that pool of voters down. >> let's move on to the hillary clinton roleolout. did you know she wrote a book? it's "hard choices." for the 16th time in her political career, in her husband's political career, she's on the cover of "people" magazine. a new little bit every day from hillary clinton. one of the favorite items is quoted in "playbook," saying they are staff recently met with "the new york times." they griped about the paper's coverage arguing that clinton left public office and should not be subjected to such harsh scrutiny? what planet do they live? >> obviously, hillary clinton and all figures in the public arena and who seek public office should -- >> that would be one thing if she retreated but writing a book and giving paid speeches and out there every day and made stories
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she wanted a tougher deal when it came to bowe bergdahl and then say, don't be so harsh on your coverage? >> this is interesting for me having covered the 2008 campaign. it's a very feminine personal family-oriented rollout. they are strategically talking about hillary clinton as a mother, hillary clinton as a future grandmother. as a warm presence. they know one of the mistakes they made in 2008 so why talk to the "the new york times" unless it's a feature section to talk about of the warm wonderful things she is doing as proosted excre opposed to excrete knee of her record. >> i will button it up there and stop mice. back to you guys in new york. i think if you're hillary clinton and you don't want so much daily press coverage maybe you should not do so many daily events. just a thought. >> john, come on! such a novel idea! >> such a novel assumption she doesn't want the attention. >> thanks, john. coming up next, the controversy over sergeant bowe
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bergdahl's release has reached his hometown in idaho. a major celebration now cancelled. but is the growing outrage warranted? we are going to talk to a family friend of the bergdahl's. another video that hack ha become very important to see. the president working out in poland. was there a security breach? no. the next question is, how is he looking? what do you think? do you know what he is doing? is he working out the right way? our commander in chief is he going to hurt himself or helping himself? we are going with the man who invented p-90-x, tony horton. don't make the same mistakes! ups is a global company, but most of our employees
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welcome back to "new day." the controversy surrounding the bowe bergdahl swap has now hit his hometown. official in hailey cancelled a ceremony. what would the protesters be about? is there a controversy about whether or not bergdahl was a deserter or just a captive and whether or not releasing five taliban is just too much. bergdahl has been caught in the center of all of that and nobody knows it better than his family and friends. joining us from idaho is one of his friends sherri horton. good to see you but sorry it's under these circumstances of
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controversy. the good news you have seen your friend for the first time in years. you know he is alive. how does he look to you? >> not as healthy as i would like to believe or like to say he looks to some other people, but it's nice to see him walking and talking and being on his own. >> those who love him and are worried about him, is there some relief in what they are hearing about how the reintegration and treatment processes are going? >> you know, i'm hearing the same thing you guys are hearing. i haven't talked to anybody and i'm not sure where he is in that process of his, you know, rehabilitation. >> well, you know all too well what is going on in your hometown, though. what do you make of this? >> i do. >> at first the crowds will be too big, we can't handle it now and it's because who are in those crowds also. what do you know? >> well, we have gotten -- not we personally, but from what
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i've heard, the city of hailey has gotten not positive e-mails that are actually a little bit threatening and because of that in our small police force and the way that our valley works, it doesn't seem to be a very good idea to have this rally just because for the safety of the residents of hailey. >> what do you make of your friend being caught in the center of what is certainly a political struggle and is now kind of bleeding into this larger outrage? >> you know, it's kind of crazy. we knew there was going to be some bash lash five years ago when this all happened. i don't know if we all expected this backlash to be as big as it has gotten but, you know, we neither is going to be a part of it. nobody knew the circumstances surrounding how he got off base and everything. so we were prepared for a little bit but i think this is a little bit bigger than what we thought we were going to get into. >> what do you want to say to
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people who are extending it beyond bowe with his paernts and looking at his dad with a beard and say you're not trying to sympathize and relate to the people who took your son. you're some type of a religious extremist. what do you say to them? >> nobody knows what they have had to go through. the parents were very private people who lived far off the grid when this all happened and they have had to, you know, do a lot of stuff. they have had to talk to a lot of senators, a lot of politicians in the last five years to make sure that bowe was in their mind and in the forefront and making sure that this -- that bowe did get to come home so nobody can really understand what it takes to go from being super private to being super public. i think they are doing the best job that they can. >> there has been so much reporting now and the best information we have is that where bowe bergdahl was, was a really ugly situation. there was a lot of fighting and a lot of soldiers were struggling with being there. there was suicide and stress.
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what do you think the chances are that the suggestion that bowe walked off or was having some type of doubts and left are true? >> well, you know, i talked about this a couple of days ago. there was a lot of things that happened right before this did. there was the, you know, the running over of the child in afghanistan that he witnessed. you know, i don't know what his thought process was. i do know that there was a lot of horrific things that he saw and did -- or not did but a lot of things he saw right before this all happened. so, you know, in his unit, there was a lot of bad, so i don't know if that played a part in what happened and, you know, until he can talk to us and let us know, we just don't know what happened. >> each if were true that he deserted, would it matter to you? >> it doesn't. and to be, you know, as i've said before, he walked off base technical according to the army,
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that's all it takes to be a deserter, and so there -- there's a little debate about that. but there has to be a reason behind it everything that has happened and i can't wait to hear his explanation. >> neither can we. sherry, thank you very much for bearing with us and dealing with the situation. >> no problem. >> in your hometown. we look forward to checking in with you again. >> okay. no problem. thank you for having me. >> okay. coming up next on "new day" rare video of president obama exercising in poland. it's been leaked out and put to some fun music. is his workout up to par? there should not be a political debate about this. we will ask the fitness expert tony horton of p-90x fame for his opinion. when salesman alan ames books his room at laquinta.com, he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready.
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♪ >> probably wouldn't work out to this song, but we're exposing his workout secrets. check it out, the commander in chief pumping iron at a marriott gym in warsaw, germany. it shows the president lifting weights, doing squats. the secret service says the recording was not a security breach. we have a more pressing question for you, how does the president's workout routine measure up? we're going to expert tony horton, creator of p90x. no scrub is he. look at those muscles bulging in santa monica, california. i knew we'd get a flex. >> i can't help myself. what can i tell you? first off, how is the president doing?
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he looks pretty good to us. we all agree he looks pretty fit. >> i got to give him good props, he's traveling halfway around the world and managing to get a half hour in before going to bed. some of those moves like kind of familiar, especially the one where he's lunging and doing the curl. that's p90x, i believe. >> do you feel his form is good sdm what is he doing right? >> it looks like a big shoulder day, i see bentover flies, military presses. in general his form is pretty good. he's wincing a lot. i'm a little worried about that. i think he needs to breathe a little more. >> don't we all? >> limited range of motion on those military presses so he might have a shoulder impingement. i'm thrilled our president shows up to poland and ends up doing a workout as opposed to grabbing a scotch and a cigarette. >> you're right, in a country having a hard time getting off the couch, here he is halfway around the world and probably setting the exact right example.
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some of the guys are trying to sweat the president saying, oh, he's not lifting any real weights. let's assume he's using 15 or 20, doing lateral raises, 25s or so. he's no tony horton, but that's no joke. >> you know, he's moving, so i don't think the president is going to be entering a body building contest any time soon. >> let's defend him. he's a 52-year-old man. let's keep that in mind. >> our 50-year-olds are still pushing the envelope a little bit. i think the great thing about it is he's moving to kind of set his time, his clock. that's what exercising is a great thing for, gets the brain active. obviously he's got a lot going on. he wants to stay sharp, so the physical movement really is more about the brain as it is the physical part. >> you've worked with high-profile clients, paul ryan, you've worked with him before. he's known to be in pretty unbelievable shape.
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what are the considerations that you think -- >> there you are. >> what are the considerations in working with a high-profile client? are you surprised they did not shut down the gym for the president to work out? >> i think it's pretty commendable. he was in there like anybody else and working out with other people, and obviously, as you say, there was no security breach. there's a lot of celebrities where they have to shut down the whole hotel to exercise. he's a regular guy, just in there doing his thing. >> he's really in the zone, too, which is what i really appreciate. >> he's got music going there as well. >> i want to know what's on his ipod. overall, what kind of grade would you give the president on his workout? >> i'd have to give him a solid b plus, maybe an a minus. i think on those bentover shoulder flies, i'm a little worried about his lower back. in general he's doing pretty well. he's smart selecting weights that are the right one for him
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so he doesn't get hurt. >> if he had no sleeves you'd give him a higher grade like you and your boy, paul ryan? >> well, you know he's not putin, thank god, not walking around with his shirt off. >> who is in better shape? you have to pick a side. paul ryan or barack obama. >> oh, there we go. that's what i want to do is lose half my fan base right here. i would say that both are doing pretty well. paul ryan is gung-ho all the way. congressman shot as well. the president and the first lady are walking the walk. i'm sure nixon and carter weren't doing that. >> tony, it has been awesome having you with us. you're up bright and early, but i would not expect anything less from a trainer in california. appreciate you making time for us. >> i've already done my run. are you kidding me?
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>> he already got his sweat on this morning. looking good, tony. thanks for joining us. it's been fun. >> thanks, you guys. >> drop and give me 20. >> i can give you 20. >> okay, here we go. coming up on "new day" -- that's a wager i'll win -- we have new details on the release of bowe bergdahl. a key senator tells "new day" how the sergeant looked in a secret video before his release. remember, this is all about it being urgent circumstances that they had to get him right now. was it enough to justify the five-for-one trade? ♪ ♪
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good morning. it's thursday, june 8. last night the obama administration officials held a closed door briefing with senators showing them a proof-of-life video that the administration says justify it is prisoner swap. senator angus king was on the show a short time ago. he told us he described what happened in that briefing. when i asked him if officials assured them whether the taliban detainees would re-enter the fight, he said this:
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>> there was no such guarantee. the intelligence people explicitly said that is a risk, and i think it is a rix. they had intelligence that had even the fact of these discussions leaked out, there was a reasoning chance bowe bergdahl would have been killed. that was one of the pieces of information that we learned yesterday that gave it some creigh deposition in terms of why it had to be kept quiet so long. >> that was part of our discussion with senator angus king. let's bring in joe johns live from washington. joe, the senator described that proof-of-life video saying bergdahl in it, he looked terrible, he could barely talk. he couldn't focus his eyes. he was downcast and very thin. >> reporter: that's right, kate. it's pretty clear the administration didn't really change any minds with this top secret briefing at the capital. on the issue of that video which still has not been released, it's not clear to many senators
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whether he was sick or whether he was drugged. there's also the fact that that video came out months ago around apparently the time of the death of south african president nelson mandela. on the issue of leaks coming out of capitol hill, we know it's a constant concern for any administration. it wasn't the first thing the white house mentioned when asked if it was concerned that congress would blow up this deal at the white house briefing on monday. i asked about that and jay kaca cited bergdahl's health as the reason they wanted to move quickly. i don't think there's any doubt in anybody's mind that the wrong leak at the wrong time might have spoiled the chances to secure bergdahl's release, kate. >> there's so much outrage and backlash going on here rnlgs it seems that the white house has been caught by surprise. we've learned that the white house prepared for blowback
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after the bergdahl release. he knew questions about the capture would be raised but was, in fact, surprised by the degree of criticism thrown at the soldier and his family. cnn's jim acosta is in brussels traveling with the president. jim, what's your take? >> reporter: good morning, chris. a white house official tells me despite that feel-good moment in the white house rose garden with bowe bergdahl's parents last saturday, they were expecting some criticism, some controversy over the deal that resulted in bergdahl being freed. what they were not prepared for were some of the harsh comments being made about not only bergdahl but also his family. they're pointing to republican lawmakers who are accusing bergdahl of being a deserter and even some comments made by conservative pundits that bergdahl's father looked muslim because of his long beard he was wearing next to the president in the rose garden over the weekend. one thing i should point out is administration officials are cautioning it's way too early to draw any conclusions about the
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events that led to bowe bergdahl's capture. as for that video, that proof of life video that prompted administration concerns about bergdahl's well-being, i'm told by a senior administration officials that they're reviewing whether to make that video public after it was shown to lawmakers, so the rest of the country can see it. keep in mind, all of this is happening, chris, as the president is here in brussels for the g-7 summit designed to keep the pressure on russia after the invasion of ukraine. it's the g-7 summit because russia was booted out of the g8 over its actions in ukraine. the president will be asked very likely at this conference coming up in about an hour about bergdahl. i've been told by administration officials expect the president once again to say the u.s. doesn't leave soldiers behind. >> the plate is full for sure. jim, let's bring in bob bear senior national security analyst and former cia operative as well
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as phillip muds, former cia counterterrorism official. >> getting him was immediate and urgent. it was why they didn't need to follow the letter of the law with the 30-day warning. what would you have to see in that proof-of-life video. what would you take that might impress senators? >> they would have shown it to doctors, would tell you what was the matter, whether he was drugged or suffering some illness. i think he was clearly not doing well. on top of it there was some intelligence, there are parts of the taliban that wanted to execute him. this has been out there a while the last couple years. there was fears that he would be grabbed by another part and executed publicly. i think the administration was right. they had to move now or never. >> that is an angle or an aspect that i am surprised hasn't been pursued more, phillip. i want to bring you in on that. the idea of what shape he was
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in, what they knew about it, that doesn't seem to be bearing much fruit. this other angle that this was a fragile negotiation, that they couldn't trust the taliban, they didn't know what was going to happen, we don't know much about this negotiating process and how deals like this work. help us understand what goes in met forricly to that room and that environment. >> the problem with the debate we're having today is we're l k looking at one scenario, the scenario we've seen roll out in the last week. someone released on the battlefield. if you're in the decisioning make chair, you have to look at multiple scenarios. let me give you one. we pull out negotiations and a month later there's a be heading video of bow beg dal. can you imagine the debate of why we didn't pursue negotiations? if you're in a decision making chair, you have to look at multiple scenarios. not all of them are good. >> it bears reminding that many of these same lawmakers complaining about this deal were
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pressuring the white house to get bowe bergdahl, saying he's a hero, now they're deleting their tweets to harness the political nature of this. that's part of the reality, bob. they have to deal with that in making this determination now. >> it's a bit of hypocrisy. back to iran contra when bill buckley had been taken there and we got a proof-of dr life video. he was doing bad, had been beat up. president reagan said we have to get this guy out. the pressure on the white house and the pressure to keep it secret, iran contra could not be briefed to the committees because it would have been leaked. the same with bowe bergdahl. the dynamics in the white house are pretty much the same, republican, democrat. i think we should give the president a little room on this. >> the president and the entire team and really all of the lawmakers. philip, give us more about this, about how you have to strategize this out. we know where they came out. we know the conclusion. but what do you think the
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different sets of variables were other than this horrible aspect of a beheading video that were on the table and were equal possibilities until they pulled the trigger. >> there's one aspect of this that's subtle, but i think is really critical. the president has recently announced as you know that the united states is withdrawing troops from afghanistan. let's fast forward a year and a half. let's say we're not at war with the taliban anymore and few troops are there. what kind of negotiations will we have? the taliban is going to say they're going to release these guys anyway out of guantanamo. why would we cut a deal with with the americans if we're going to get our guys home anyway? i suspect there's an aspect where the american side is saying whether or not this guy is sick, we have a window that goes until u.s. troops withdraw and we better cut a deal now. >> something that has been ignored and we're trying not to do that here, but is relevant and needs the perspective of men like you two, five for one? the starting five, the worst five for this one guy, what is
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the reality, bob -- forget about how bad they are or not. we're never going to impress people that they have an answer or conclusion on this. but this point philip is making, gitmo is going to close. guys have been sent back. we're leaving them with governments that we don't necessarily trust, that we know what's going on or certainly can't monitor. what's the reality about what's going to happen with the men at gitmo. >> they didn't kill americans that we know about. they were not part of 9/11. they were not the worst of the worse is it. phil is absolutely right. why not get something out of it. as phil said, we're moving to the end game in afghanistan. there's going to be some sort of negotiation either directly or indirectly with the taliban, so let's move on. don't forget the drone attacks are tapering off completely. >> philip, is there a fair pushback on this issue saying, no, we may keep them there, we may put guys like this in our own prisons, we don't know we're
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going to release them. is that fair pushback or is there a high bs factor and the reality is they're going to be sent back to their country? >> i didn't fall off the turn anyplace truck yesterday. let's be clear, the president to getwe have a bunch of guys guantanamo that are not al qaeda members. you mean in a couple years we'll keep a bunch of taliban guys when we're not on the battled field in afghanistan. when you're in the chair in washington, you have to make a simple decision. the simple decision is are you going to make a trade or not? when i was the chair at cia, we had black sites that held al qaeda detainees. we knew what would happen when what we did to those prisoners would come out in the public. our answer is quite simple, when it hits the fan, so be it. the decision was put them in prisons, get the information out of them and when people get excited about it, we know what
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our answer is. we were dealt a hand of deuces and we did the best we could. in this case the white house had a hand of deuces, give the guy over or don't get the guy back. >> bob, agree? >> i 100% agree. >> perspective has to matter. that said, the political fallout continues. the outrage whether real or feigned is all around us. let's give you more of your headlines at this hour. an intense manhunt is underway in new brunswick, canada, a 24-year-old suspect who police say fatally shot three rcpm officers. police released this picture of the suspect, justin boring. take a look at this video posted on facebook capturing the first terrifying moments of that shootout. >> oh! >> oh, my god.
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this morning we're hearing the chilling 911 call in the so-called slender man stabbing. police say a 12-year-old girl was nearly stabbed by two other 12-year-old girls. the victim's condition is improving, this as we're learning more about the accused tackers and their connection with the online slender man. miguel marquez is has more. >> reporter: the mug shots, pictures of innocence. their actions, say authorities, beyond belief. >> 911. >> what's the address of your emergency. >> reporter: 911 tapes reveal the horror, luring their
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12-year-old friends into the woods, stabbing her 19 times, leaving her for dead. >> she says she's having trouble breathing. she says she was stabbed multiple times. >> is she awake? >> she's awake. >> is she breathing? >> she's breathing. she says she can take shallow breaths. she's alert. >> reporter: the plan, the attack, the motive all to please slender man, created in 2009, the tark ter who preys on children has taken on a life of its own with thousands of pictures, videos and stories posted online. the older brother of one of the girls telling the daily news that she loved the slender man stories. i don't see why it changed from dream to reality. >> what effect does this have on students in general there? >> i think students and parents. there's a certain amount of fear. i can tell you we do have a very
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safe school. >> reporter: todd gray who oversees the school, the victim and her alleged perpetrators say some parents have kept their children home, others have sought counseling at school. samantha was in the same gym class as morgan. >> i was scared, too, because you don't know who to trust anymore. >> reporter: the school has banned the website home to the majority of all the slender man stories and websites pending review. it's also urging parents to monitor what their kids are accessing online and to talk about it. >> as a parent, i just hold my kids a little closer. but for the grace of god. >> the good news, if there's any to be had, is the victim's condition has been upgraded to fair. she is walking a bit and talking. she appears to be out of danger. miguel marquez, cnn, waukesha, wisconsin. >> the more you learn about that story, the more sad it is.
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know for your new day. senators are skeptical after being shown a proof of life video, the white house claiming it proves his health was declining and he had to be rescued. president obama will sit down with british prime minister david cameron, part of his meetings with the g-7 group of nations. he'll head from brussels to paris later for more meetings and tomorrow's d-day commemoration. at least 12 employees are leaving general motors because of the results of an internal investigation of the company's failed response to an ignition switch defect. gm is set to release full details of the report in about half an hour's time. quite a terrifying scene in california after a military jet crashed into a residential area. it destroyed three homes. the pilot was able to eject safely, luckily no one on the ground was injured. donald sterling's attorney says he has agreed to the sale of his l.a. clippers to former microsoft ceo steve ballmer for
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$2 billion. he'll drop his lawsuit against the nba. the saga continues. we're always updating the five things you need to know, go to new daycnn.com for the latest. new insight this morning into why the obama administration ordered the prisoner exchange that traded sergeant bowe bergdahl for five taliban detainees. as we mentioned, senators were in a closed door briefing last night, given a closer look at the video that officials say is part of their reasoninging behind why they needed to move so fast to get him out. should the white house have taken the time to notify congress or any key lawmakers before making the deal? joining us now is paul begala, cnn's political commentator, senior adviser for priorities acti action. good morning. >> good morning. sherry, one of the interesting things, do you think it was a fair point that was coming from the administration and democrats
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now that republicans, they are only criticizing this because it is president obama who pulled it off, it would be very different if a republican president had made the same deal? >> no. i think it's actually politically dangerous for them to go down that line. first of all, you have many, many democrats saying this was wrong, it was a bad decision, the president broke the law by not going to congress. they're not buying the video. >> some of them aren't buying the video. >> to try to make it partisan, i think the american people are smarter than this. they understand you have comrades -- >> the white house is saying republicans are making this harder. >> the white house is saying that, but they can't get away with it because democrats are criticizing as well. initially there were democrats and republicans both putting out tweets saying this is a great thing. before the facts were in, all they knew is we had an american back and didn't really
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understand it. you had senator claire mccaskill who went out defending the administration and she pulled back. now to say this is a republican thing i think is politically dangerous for the administration. they have a couple people that might go with it, but by and large, i think they're taking a big chance trying to exploit it in that regard. >> paul, what's the other side on this issue as to whether or not this is a group of both sides coming after the white house? or is it just political football being run by the republicans? >> there are legitimate important questions about this. as you know, chris, i certainly thought the president should have informed the congress. now he's starting to make the case as to why he wasn't able to, both that intelligence of the two former cia officials you interviewed gave us that perhaps there were threats to his life, also the question of ex-jent circumstances. then off to the far right side there's the politics. everything barack obama does he will be attacked for.
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president bush released 520 detainees -- released or transferred 520 detainees from guantana guantanamo. not a peep from the right. if barack obama cured cancer, the republicans would attack him for putting oncologists out of work. >> that's so unfair, paul. in this case that's very, very unfair. bipartisan or non-partisan, i think everybody at first -- the president was hoping they could get a bump from this. i think the american people, republicans and democrats would have cheered had this all been on the up and up. it appears it's not. susan rice has been put out there a second time telling the same things that aren't quite accurate. she should stay off tv, they should keep her off tv. >> what's not accurate about what susan rice said? >> she goes out with the talking points and saying this was all on the up and up. this is a case where this geyser
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vd honorably when there was enough evidence to the contrary. >> does it matter? >> there's a couple of different issues here. there's an issue of should congress have been notified, did the president break the law? that's the one i think dianne feinstein -- >> does it matter to you if it deserted? >> it does matter to me. for the american people, that's what they will focus on. when we have so many men and women who did serve honorably. >> would you have left him there? >> i'm not the president. >> you have an opinion. >> as a layperson, i would say you don't hand over five terrorists, two of whom named war criminals in exchange. >> so you would have left him there? >> i would have explored a different way and at least gone to congress. that's where the president has a problem, he didn't go to congress to consult. it looks like he knew he wouldn't get the support. he doesn't want to deal with congress. he's made that clear. >> there was actually six and one of them died. the detainees have always been on the table. do you remember any lawmaker
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democrat or republican saying leave bergdahl there, i don't like this deal? >> i don't think they were given a chance to look at all the facts. i don't think you can make a fair assessment whether they would have been right or wrong. the fact that the president didn't deal with congress is pretty much an indication he didn't care what they thought. they were not provided with all the information, and that's on the president. >> one of the concerns, one of the pieces of outrage coming out of this meeting last night, paul, is not just the notification, not the background or what happened in the capture of bowe bergdahl. it's the fact that there is a national security risk with these five taliban detainees. we talked to angus king earlier, he said the officials who briefed them could not have given any guarantee they won't go back into the fight. they say it was likely that they would. what is the white house banking on? you've got a real concern on that side. what are they banking on to overshadow that? >> a couple things. first of all, there are some -- not strong enough for some people -- not being released to
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afghanistan but to qatar, a third country where they're supposed to be monitored. >> even if they are monitored, they're only monitored for a year. >> look, i don't think it's tough enough. but we released 520 under similar circumstances and got nothing in return. some of them did return to the battlefield. are these five guys going to tip the balance? we're ending this war, thank god. when wars end, prisoners of war, and that's what these guys were, they were enemy combatants, subject to the law of war. when wars end, you have to send the p.o.w.s back. they have no value as soon as we end this war which, god willing, will be this year or next year. then they had a shelf life. they're valuable now. we can get our one american p.o.w. home. that's the deal they made. that's the deal, as chris pointed out that john mccain on our air in february said he would have made, and now senator mccain doesn't like to deal, now that barack obama has made the deal he called for a few months
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ago. there's a lot of politics on this. >> cheri, really quick, one person who carries a lot of weight, retired general stanley mcchrystal. he said yesterday we don't leave americans behind. that is unequivocal, when asked if this deal should have been done. >> you find other ways besides trading out five dangerous men or at least you don't go around congress. that's the problem with this. nobody wants to leave anybody behind. i don't think any american would support that. there's different circumstances. >> how do you know though? >> we have john mccain who has been a p.o.w. himself saying yes, we want to bring everybody home, but not this way. you talk about these five guys as if they're nothing. the american people know what just a small handful of guys who hate americans and want to kill us -- >> do they know the men in gitmo right now are going to be released? do you think that's responsible to ignore that that's a reality, that the men who are there are
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going to be released. >> it's something that now the american people are going to be focused on. i think this could be a pretty big issue. >> it matters in terms of evaluating this deal, doesn't it? >> i think it does. i think americans will start paying very close attention to this. i think it's a mistake to say this is just partisan politics. the american people aren't going to buy that. right now you have paul saying that a little bit. you have nancy pelosi, susan rice dealing with this. you don't have a lot of congressional democrats defending the president on this. even hillary clinton is stratling this or triangulating or whatever it is the clintons do. the president does not have a lot of support on this and it's not republicans playing politics. it's a mistake that he made and it's a very serious one. >> one clarification. i don't think john mccain ever said he wanted this deal. i think he said he would be open to prisoners being exchanged for bowe bergdahl, but not these
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prisoners. i think it's unfair to say he flip-flopped. >> chris, since i said it, let me defend myself. that's correct. mccain did not have a crystal ball to see the exact parameters of this deal and he is free and he's an expert on these things, he's free to criticize that. but it is true that he called for a prisoner swap on our air with anderson. >> he's not qualifying that. >> i'm with you. paul, thank you so much. cheri, thank you so much. let's take a break on "new day." katherine schwarzenegger, you know the name, perhaps. she likes to read, an accomplished author, helping her generation with a big pressing concern for all of us. what do people do with life after graduation? she's going to bring you valuable advice. she has it right there in her hands with a new book. a little bit of "the sixties" we have coming up. >> looking back at the sixties, the cold war heats when during
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♪ welcome back to "new day." this year millions of college seniors are donning their caps and gowns, a moment they have been waiting and working towards all their life. what comes next? katherine schwarzenegger got some advice from the best and the brightest detailed in her new book "i just graduated. now what?" also the daughter of maria
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shriver and arnold schwarzenegger. two people you could take good advice from. you were graduating college and were asked probably the hardest question to answer, what are you going to do now? if it's such an impossible question to answer, why would you take it on? >> because i was so frustrated that i didn't have an answer to give when people would ask that question. i thought a book like this would have been helpful for me at the time i graduated. >> did you find the answer? >> i found there is no specific answer, no right answer or wrong answer. there's only your way and your path. >> your path. i found really an interesting notion is when we think of successful people, we think of that. we don't think of going back to their beginning which is what you did with them. what did you find most surprising about these people? what was the thing that most intrigued you? >> i think just knowing that all the people in the book, which is over 30 people that i interviewed, all had times of feeling like they were failures or they didn't know what they were going to do next and questioned themselves and what
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their path was in life. knowing that when you graduate college, if you feel that way, you can relate to people in this book and see how successful they've become. >> is there a legitimate basis for suggesting that maybe college isn't the way to go, the way it was for my generation? >> i wanted to kind of put people in the book who dropped out of college as well. i have half that went all the way through college and half that dropped out because you see so many people, especially in my generation who are doing startups and creating apps that are hugely successful. you the question why go to college if you can do that? i think at the end of the day there's nothing better than having an amazing education obviously. but if you have a passion and a clear vision for what you want to do, go for it. >> now that you have been forced to become the expert, do you have -- what's your five-year, ten-year plan? did you find one in all this? >> no. i think that what i found was a
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sense of comfort and also excitement about my future and less worry and anxiety about what i was going to do next. >> you of all people were worried and anxious about your future? >> think of all the overachievers in her family. >> what did your parents say? >> my mom talked to me a lot about it and talked in the book about not having a plan herself when we graduated. she was totally fine with me not knowing what i was going to do next. i think just taking a minute and trying to figure out what my passion was and what i wanted to do with my life turned out to be this. >> can i say the thing i found so intriguing was the notion of pausing for a minute, just sort of pressing reset and saying let's just be for a second. we don't always have that opportunity. it could mentally allow yourself to pause. >> even if it's for an hour and recognizing that you just have this huge accomplishment in life in graduating college and getting on that fast pace --
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>> you do a good job of outlining an issue. student debt is the elephant in the room. everybody talks about the future and children and our new workers and can't pay for it anymore. it's too expensive. just about everyone you talk to, no matter how much money they have now, they were all worried about debt and have to deal with the debt. they led to their decision process. >> i have two interviews for people who are experts in college loan debt. even someone like john legend, you don't think of him as having to pay his way through college. >> what did he do with his first check when he signed a deal? >> put it right into his student loan. >> what's next for you? >> i'm doing this right now. i have a lifestyle website that i love doing. also about to start shooting a show based off this book. >> sometimes doing something creative can spark many things. >> yes. >> i love it.
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♪ i love it. welcome back. we know the '60s left a lasting mark on the history of the united states, perhaps most notably during the beginning of the cold war. today's episode of "the sixties" explores how tremendous anxiety and feerp was that gripped the nation. joining us now, a friend of the show, springily is back, a delight to have you here looking back on and a tremendous decade in america's history. we were looking at that clip that aired, children on a school bus having to duck, under school desks. such ang anxiety-ridden time. >> particularly in the united states with sputnik. once the soviets had sputnik in
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the air, we were in catch-up note. alan shepherd going into space, john glenn and john f. kennedy saying we will go to the moon by the end of the decade. that was the optimism that we would beat the soviet union. we had $260 billion bipartisan money being spent to get to the moon. the downside of all that, the cuban missile crisis, duck and cover. bob dylan's "hard rain is going to fall," a palatable fear in the country. >> this episode does a really good job of describing that palpable fear felt throughout the country. do you think that sense collectively has been felt since? do we have anything like that? >> i don't think we've had quite the nuclear fear with the cuban missile crisis that those missiles could blow up all the lower 48, maybe if washington had been spared, meaning total
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innile lags. there's never been two showdowns about who is going to sting first the quote of dean rusk, secretary of state was they blinked, not us, the ships turned around in cuba and kennedy got this big, big plus in history that he resolved the cuban crisis. >> with the benefit of hindsight, how much of the russian threat was a straw horse. much of it in the sense that there was supposed to be a missile gap with the soviet union. the gap was we have a lot more than they did. in the cold bar context, you have the stuff done by having this bogeyman, enemy of the soviet union and we're going to break them. any time you have a country with nuclear weapons, it's considered a threat to us. wu don't want to minimize that.
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khrushchev was on a roll until he met john kennedy in the cuban missile crisis. after that his stock goes down. >> so interesting to think about this episode airing, especially when you see crimea, ukraine, russia, putin flexing his muscles, and in his comments about hillary clinton, it's so interesting when you think of the people in america that were alive then and what they must be thinking when they watch this news emerge now. >> that's why george herbert walker bush didn't really celebrate when the soviet union broke up in '91. history plays weird games on you. you're starting to see putin reconstruct the soviet union, but also george kennedy talking about containing of the soviet union. he called it traditional russian expansionism. we were calling it the communist red blob. kennen in said, no, russia is also expansionistic.
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you're seeing that go on now with putin. >> one provocative question that's raised in this episode that will have a lot of people thinking is when touching on the vietnam war. would history have played out differently if jfk had not been assassinated. if it wasn't lyndon johnson in the seat. >> we have to watch the what-ifs as a historian. with that said, compelling evidence that kennedy -- including a famous interview he did with walter cronkite shortly before his death. he didn't want to get baited into going into vietnam. dwight eisenhower shrewdly did not get drawn into the vietnam war. i am of the school that kennedy probably would not have put the amount of brown troops that lyndon johnson did after his death. kennedy was -- seemed to be knowing that that was a loser's hand in vietnam. >> i've noticed that when we talk about the series, a lot of the writing is a little
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qualified, that this could have been -- do you think there's any question that the '60s in america, that was the most influential cultural period. >> endlessly fascinating on so many different levels. the show tonight will be more about the cold war context with the receive yet union. think about the birth of folk music and rock 'n' roll. martin luther king and medgar evers and malcolm x, cesar chavez, the great latino leader and bobby kennedy killed. >> iconic moments, iconic images. i was thinking of the berlin wall, all of these things that just hark en to a time of just -- there was -- it was such a pivotal time. >> a lot of women that are important. rachel carson writes silent spring revolution and the word conservation gets erased and
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becoming environmentalism and ecology. we're living with that today. >> the questions you were asked in the '60s, we're still answering today. >> sometimes we think -- i think do we look back and look at rose-colored glasses? i really think -- >> i think good and bad we're still feeling the effects of that era and still feeling the effects of the cold war. >> 58,000 americans died in the war. those are real people. then you're dealing with veterans today that aren't getting proper medical attention and dealing with the damage that did to families of losing somebody. vietnam is the bogeyman in the middle of the '60s, san francisco, haight ashbury party. >> there's stuff you have to check out in this episode. if you haven't seen it, tune in now. airing tonight right here on cnn. east coast and west coast, 9:00 p.m. together, we can all watch
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so you'll be ready for business. the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com! la quinta! ♪ time for "the good stuff." today's edition joe cornwell is down on his luck, a recovering addict trying to get clean. he's at the salvation army rehab center in fresno. it's like out of the movie, he's just sitting there. a brinks truck goes by with 125,000 dollars hops out. >> you're kidding me. >> and nobody saw it. joe could have kept it free and clear. so he did, right? wrong. >> i just did it because it was the right thing to do. i wasn't sure if anything was going to come from it.
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that's not what i was thinking. >> something did come from it. brings was so impressed that joe returned the money -- by the way, giving credibility to this entire situation, they gave him and his wife a debit card worth $5,000. >> i'm proud of him and we're going to start all over. this is like a new start for us. >> bless your heart. >> of course, the story isn't over for joe. he's set to come out of the program in a few weeks. hopefully he'll be clean and sober and ready to go. you know what he's going to need, a job. >> please, anybody that needs an honest man to hire -- we know he's an honest man. he just gave back $125,000. >> that's your resume right now. >> how many of your employees can you say that about, that if they were given 125 grand and nobody knew, they would give it back. integrity is what you do when nobody else is looking. >> giving back money was the easy part.
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the recovery, that's the hard part. >> that will certainly continue. a lot of news this morning for you. the latest on what happened with the bergdahl swap, what happened with the gm recall. they're investigating themselves. do you think they're getting the right answers. the "newsroom" has it all with ms. carol costello. >> we do have it all. have a great day. have a great day. "newsroom" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com happening now in the "newsroom," not sold. >> i remain as deeply skeptical today as i did before this. >> i was not satisfied. >> that did not sell me at all. >> i learned nothing in this briefing, nor did i expect to learn anything in this briefing. >> capitol hill not convinced. the white house hoping to answer questions about the bowe bergdahl swap. >> the public needs to know more about what happened. >> backlash in bergdahl's hometown. >> it was supposed to be called the bowe is back event. >> worries of a showdown in the

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